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I want to talk about one of those very tricky things that come up when trans folks, and most especially trans women, get talked about, order ZESTRIL online c.o.d. Pretty universally, ZESTRIL over the counter, I should hasten to add, when cis folks talk about trans folks; but then I said people, and don't we all know that people means cis people, ZESTRIL blogs. Silly ducks.

The bugbear in the room is, Online buying ZESTRIL, of course, "women-only spaces." In its most extreme form, this resolves to the old "bathroom libel": the idea that, ZESTRIL recreational, say, Buy ZESTRIL online cod, allowing trans people to use the rest rooms that match their gender presentation will open a flood of rapists donning drag in order to rape unsuspecting women. BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION, That no trans person has ever done this, and that women get raped in women's rooms by men not wearing dresses, never seems to make a dent in this argument; but then it's held by only the most set in their way anti-trans folks.

Sadly, this includes a large number of otherwise noteworthy feminists. Google it; I'll wait.

A less extreme version of the "women's spaces exclusion" doesn't have a problem with trans folk in the ladies', (perhaps because being booted from your stall for looking too masculine can happen to cis women too), ZESTRIL for sale, but still make an exception for other spaces: women's spiritual circles, ZESTRIL dose, social groups, and, most--notoriously isn't the right word, ZESTRIL interactions, but bear with me for a second--rape crisis centers.

Yes, Cheap ZESTRIL, that's right--I'm bringing Kimberley Nixon into this again.

For those of you who don't know, a precis: Ms. Nixon is a trans woman who lived in Vancouver, buy generic ZESTRIL. She applied for a volunteer counseling position at Vancouver Rape Relief, ZESTRIL class, and passed their initial phone interview. When she showed up for training, however, is ZESTRIL addictive, she was read as trans and told that she could not be a counselor because of VRR's woman-only policy. Ms, BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION. Order ZESTRIL online overnight delivery no prescription, Nixon eventually sued the center, won one trial, but the decision was overturned on appeal.

That's the basics, fast shipping ZESTRIL. VRR claimed that the legal fees put them in danger of closing. Purchase ZESTRIL for sale, Julie Bindel and many other trans-exclusionary feminists castigated Ms. Nixon.

But when you go deeper, it gets a whole lot more complicated.

For starters, ZESTRIL reviews, Ms. BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION, Nixon herself had been raped and battered by her male partner. ZESTRIL online cod, After receiving help from a different group for battered women, she entered their counseling training course, and did very well; she would later be described as a "superior" counselor, where can i find ZESTRIL online. But the first group wanted her to wait a year to heal before she became a counselor, Purchase ZESTRIL online no prescription, which led her to VRR.

Now hearken with me to the little lower layer. Above, I linked to an article about a butch cis woman who was unceremoniously tossed from a restaurant bathroom for looking too masculine, ZESTRIL photos. This is precisely what happened to Ms. Nixon, BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION. Order ZESTRIL from mexican pharmacy, Yet Ms. Farmer would be allowed to counsel for VRR, and Ms, buy ZESTRIL no prescription. Nixon wouldn't. Canada, mexico, india, Even though they both looked "masculine."

Ponder that one in light of feminist principles, if you will.

Dig even deeper: it is a misconception that Ms. BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION, Nixon was demanding a spot as a counselor for VRR; what she wanted was the chance to prove herself on her own merits, and not be judged by her appearance. Furthermore, ZESTRIL from canadian pharmacy, VRR claimed that her presence might traumatize other women, ZESTRIL from mexico, who might harbor fear or resentment or hatred towards men. Fair enough, I suppose, though one would think that this could apply to very butch cis women as well. But the thing is, we'll never know if Ms. Nixon would traumatize people; we'll never know if she could have fit in, if she could have provided healing services to women. We'll never know, because she never got the chance.

And neither did any of the women who might use the shelter; VRR made the decision for them.

I don't think there's any way to slice this that doesn't come up as prejudice, BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION. They could have done any number of things; had her help in the office and get training from the counselors, so that even if she didn't work out there, she would gain experience; have her act as a liaison to the trans community (one would assume that VRR would also turn away trans women who were the victims of rape as well); any number of things.

But instead they said, you look like a man. You are a man. You cannot come here.

Now, it may surprise you to know that I am ambivalent--very--about these situations. I can see many sides to these issues, and they're always tricky. BUY ZESTRIL NO PRESCRIPTION, And I do not dispute for a second that there is a very real difference in the background of trans and cis women, especially trans women who transition after, say, their twenties (present company included.) We, I, don't have the experience of growing up female; we don't have the same bodily experiences as the majority of cis women. (This is why I will never be teaching a class on Your Period and You.)

But--and this is so important that in needs to be said, again and again--the question remains: is that condition unredemediable. Is it so impossible to think that a trans woman who has spent 25 years living as a woman might have insight into women's lives approaching that of a 25-year old cis woman. Think on this: you could transition as soon as you were of age, have been on hormone blockers so you never experienced male puberty, spent your teens and twenties living as a woman, majored in women's studies, gone on to become a social worker specializing in the problems of battered women and rape victims, worked for ten years in public health--and you will be less qualified, in the eyes of VRR, than a high school drop out who happens to be cis.

That is to say, that not judging a person on her merits is discriminatory. Unless, of course, you're trans. Then it's totes feminist.

Next: I'll take this to Tiger Beatdown and do some feminism and gender analysis..

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  1. LexiconLuthor

    I too take up this argument with men in the military who don't want gay/trans people to serve. "but the sexual assault rates!"
    You're telling me that little "male" or "female" symbol really prevents sexual assault? you're putting a whole ton trust into that itty bitty stick figure.
    Good on all counts, and though I hijack your reasoning for my own purposes I promise I do it with nothing but love and affection.
    Gee, you know what prevents sexual assault?
    What a frocking cuncept

  2. Anonymous

    ………… BUT SHE'S A WOMAN!

    That is all.
    Sorry but even a completely cis person like me should be able to work this one out gahh.